My Fellow Americans
Call me naive. Call me ignorant. But, something I have discovered in the last few weeks has shocked me.
I have had several different people tell me that they voted for Hillary Clinton just so Barack Obama would NOT win.
They then would follow up with a dumbass comment like, "He's a Muslim, you know."
At this point, I feel like I should be like the comedian and "hand them their sign." The other day the comment was "he refused to say the pledge of allegiance!"
Both of these pieces of misinformation are easy enough to look up on the internet and see if they are true or not. THEY ARE NOT TRUE. Obama has never been a Muslim - he just happened to live in a largely Muslim country when he was young. And, the pledge incident was not the pledge. It was the playing of the National Anthem. One sings the national anthem - you don't necessarily put your hand over your heart.
I was shocked and well, frankly, disappointed in my fellow man to hear that people used their vote that way. I have had at least three people tell me they voted that way. These are all Republicans too. Republicans who do not want their man to have to run against Obama.
I'm really not a super political person. This just saddened me. Honestly, the people I have met, I believe their fear/dislike comes down to race. I thought we were way past that. I know I am certainly not color blind and my mind tends to sort by differences. Once I get to know someone and find they are kind and honest - I don't really care if they are purple. I don't see that anymore.
I find it quite insulting to a man who has graduated from Harvard, lives a good, honest life and is someone that I think if I ever met, I would like, still is being judged this way.
posted by DebbieDoesLife at
2:25 PM
15 Comments:
Too bad Obama doesn't associate with people who believe like you do.
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Anonymous, at 3/18/2008 4:13 PM
I too agree. It is very easy to look up legitimate information for any of the candidates. It would seem obvious that both of the people voted based on emails. Now I am glad they voted, thats the first step!! Voting for Hillary or any democrat is just plain idiotic!! (insert stick in pot here) Look at our world as it is now not the liberal media views of GW and the world but the world as a whole. Who do you think is going to keep our economy on the right path. None of the candidates are going to do much good. Obama certainly is not going to help!!!!!!! Big Luv
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Anonymous, at 3/18/2008 5:42 PM
Big Luv: Since I know you personally, I'm gonna have to come over there and open up a can on you!
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DebbieDoesLife, at 3/18/2008 5:45 PM
Did you hear his speech today on racial issues in this country? I didn't catch all of it, and it seemed a little lengthy, but I was glued to it while on the treadmill at the gym. So much so that I lost track of time!
He gives me a lot of hope and I find him quite eloquent. And, I'm typically a conservative voter. I hope he wins the nomination.
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Crazy MomCat, at 3/18/2008 11:06 PM
Congratulations, you have just interacted with the sheeple and the driven herd. These are the people who do not need the have the right to vote.
You know, a lot of the fear of Obama is like the way people feared Kennedy being Catholic.
~Jef
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Anonymous, at 3/19/2008 8:04 AM
And Crazy Momcat, is a good leader always someone who can speak well. Hitler spoke REALLY well.
~Jef
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Anonymous, at 3/19/2008 8:05 AM
This has saddened me as well, and also the attitudes that seem to be worsening as a result. I just don't get it. This is the 21st century.
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Beulah, at 3/19/2008 8:30 AM
He gave an interesting speech yesterday, in which he addresses how far we still have to go in the issue of race. I think he knows only too well that race is still an deciding factor in many votes.
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Candy, at 3/19/2008 2:15 PM
Well...we live in Texas.
I have a family member who did just that...a family member who says how "women and minorities are ruining the job market."
He calls Obama "racist" and then does a racist stunt like that. Turns out, everyone else is racist and he's just "right."
Sheesh. When I heard this, I wanted to cancel out his vote...
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Anonymous, at 3/20/2008 8:15 AM
You election process is something for an outsider to behold...
Prejudices and all...
But coming from an outsider, I, think the one thing against Obama in my opinion is his lack of experience and the fact that America seems to be spiralling into a recession, I would think that one would need a leader with a bit more experience on the world stage...
For a country in which religion and state are not supposed to mesh...
I find it fastounding how someone's religious beliefs come into play...
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Pendullum, at 3/20/2008 8:36 AM
And I don't watch the Phoenix Suns because Shaquille O'Neal is Irish.
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Spamboy, at 3/20/2008 6:52 PM
Anonymous...In order for the economy to STAY on the right path it has to BE on the right path in the first place. We're in a recession. Things are bad.
1. No party (even Republican) has the ONLY correct answer on how to run this country. It's not idiotic to vote for a Democrat (or even a Republican), but it is idiotic demonize members of that party for what they MIGHT do when so many of your own have rendered our economy impotent.
2. I never get tired of laughing at the accusations regarding liberal media. Most papers or networks have an equal number of left and right-leaning editorialists. But you have to look at who OWNS those media groups and when you do, you'll notice that many are conservatives. Conservatives who don't mind making a buck off of the controversy. That said? I notice that few conservatives take issue with FOX "News". Maybe it's because it's the mouthpiece of the Right.
3. If the administration appoints military expertise to help them make decisions regarding GW's war (expertise no one in this administration has, incidentally), and then that same military personnel is "fired" because George and Dick don't like hearing that things are going well? It is not an act of the liberal media to resport as such. It's just what happened. Some facts are just going to make the world sound a little different than it does to those who insist on only getting their spinjob updates from Bill O'Reilly. Those people should definitely risk listening/watching another network if only to hear something other than an "inbred" viewpoint.
4)Few people could do worse than George W. Bush has done as the leader of what used to be the free world. Even friends who voted for him are coming to that conclusion. Could that be the influence of the liberal media??? Or just common sense kicking them in the head?
5) My mother (who only votes straight ticket Republican because she doesn't like to think when she votes...bless her heart)voted for Hillary Clinton, too. And she was pretty damned smug about it. We didn't talk for a week after that. I was truly ashamed of her and for her.
6)To compare someone like Obama to Hitler is just ignorant, Edge. The fact that GWBush can't articulate a simple thought without sounding like a victim of head trauma is not the fault of any Democrat.
7)I find it extremely interesting that the same people who claimed Obama was a Muslim are now claiming that he is the "tool" of his church pastor. A Christian. Make up your mind people! Which ugly rumor are you going to sign onto?
8)In 2000, Rove and his band of con men "swiftboated" poor John McCain who was running against their boy, George. They spread vicious rumors about his adopted child being the result of a bi-racial tryst when he was in Vietnam (a place that George, Ashcroft and Dick Cheney "opted" not to visit when their country came calling, I should add.) They also claimed that his stay in the Hanoi Hilton made him too "mentally unstable" to be President. Those in the party to willing to swallow their gossip before chewing it over first...decided to vote for a recently reformed alcoholic instead.
How do you like him now? And isn't it interesting that so many Republicans suddenly like McCain. My biggest complaints about McCain are simple:
1) He's too old and if he won and ran for a second term he'd be nearly 80 at the end of it. Did we not learn with Ronald Reagan?
2) He's all but guaranteed that we'll stay in Iraq and will invade Iran.
I refuse to listen to crapulous generalities and terrible rumors. Nor will I spread them to further the cause of my party and I see others have done here. And I really hate reading it when others from the opposite side participate in such. Debbie, I salute you for being brave enough to go against the goose-stepping tide. And I appreciate this forum.
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Anonymous, at 3/21/2008 9:59 PM
Instead of people asking whether Obama is a Muslim, the question we SHOULD be asking is why it matters.
Article 6 of the U.S. Constitution states:
"No religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."
Yet, our presidential candidates are routinely, and without question, put to a Christian litmus test. During this election, the candidates have even been grilled rigorously on their knowledge of Bible verses and interpretation. Why is this anyone's business?
I love how some people are always wagging the Constitution in people's faces, yet have no clue what's in it. I'm sure there's some organization somewhere who are lobbying to amend Article 6. And I swear, sometimes I think many Americans would be happy to jump right on board. It's embarrassing.
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Carla, at 3/22/2008 7:25 PM
gotta love that first amendment! i have to remind myself that it's the freedoms we have in this country that allow the dumb-asses to speak/judge and that i need to remember that it's exactly that freedom that makes this country so great. there's plenty to bitch about - we should feel lucky we don't get shot for doing so and we also can't shoot (literally or figuratively) anyone else who speaks up too. feel free to sing the "glory, glory, hallelujah" now.
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John, at 3/22/2008 8:27 PM
I'm afraid alot of people are voting according to race. They are afraid that Obama will win the Democratic primary, and will vote for McCain. I think it is more important that Obama is promising to bring the troops home from Iraq.
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Dan, at 4/03/2008 3:07 PM
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